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Better Than Ethanol? BTL in plug-in hybrid diesel vehicles
Google Tech Talks September 20, 2006 Reed M. Benet Biofuels Focused Ph.D. Student University of California Davis Institute of Transportation Studies Consultant to The Energy Foundation, Chevron, Nissan 10 Years Founding, Funding, Consulting to or Leading Venture Capital Backed Life Sciences, High-Tech or Energy-Tech Co's Europe Finance & Operations 5 Years USMC Infantry Officer Harvard MBA (Entrepreneurship) Princeton BA (Politics) ABSTRACT Speaker proposes that plug-in hybrid diesel vehicles (versus gasoline variants) combined with biomass-to-liquid gasification and fischer-tropsch diesel fuels (versus ethanol, cellulosic or otherwise) is the best holistic and medium- to long-term...
August 11th, 2007 - 13:10
I am 100% FOR plug in hybrids and total electric vehicles but it is not enough and to bash biofuels etc. is counterproductive
August 11th, 2007 - 19:28
And your scenario is pretty unrealistic because we don’t have nearly enough cropland or fresh water to persue that.
Whats more, we have an exponentially growing population worldwide, and they need food.
China for instance has a fraction of the cropland, with 4x the population.
Biomass anything just isn’t going to work at any scale, unless of course Algae works, but thats not terribly certain at the moment.
greyfalcon. net/ algae
August 11th, 2007 - 21:55
WRONG. We have over 1.03 billion acres cropland/ 150 million acres designated energy cropland growing miscanthus 30 tons per acre= 450 billion gallons/ 145% of all US oil consumption + 110 million acres DOE non cropland growing poplar 10 tons per acre=120 billion gallons= 570 billion gallons annually + 127 billion existing domestic oil is almost 700 billion gallons or 220% of consumption.
August 11th, 2007 - 23:25
Wishful thinking by the DOE doesn’t make it a reality.
venturebeat. com/ 2006/11/05/why-cellulosic-ethanol-will-not-save-us
stopbp-berkeley. org/ CellulosicBiofuels.pdf
globalpublicmedia. com/ the_reality_report_the_myths_of_biofuels
August 11th, 2007 - 23:26
And here’s a much longer read if you’re up for it.
greyfalcon. net/ peaksoil
Along with something else to think about.
greyfalcon. net/ soy2
greyfalcon. net/ dilbert2.png
October 2nd, 2007 - 06:12
I think what’s imporant is being able to get off the grid entirely.
If you can get a plug in diesel hybrid that runs on biomass, and your plug in source is, say, your own off the grid home, that’s really what you wanna go for
October 2nd, 2007 - 06:13
California could be growing LOADS of biomass with the land they have for almond crops, for example. Though I wonder how much biomass you would get out of almonds… But anyway, Algaculture gives the highest biomass yield, and I don’t think any land needs to be cleared for THAT, but correct me if I’m wrong.
November 23rd, 2007 - 00:07
We are better off with pure electric cars. Wasting land to grow bio mass for fuel will not meet our energy needs and will only drive up the cost for food.
November 24th, 2007 - 12:12
“We are better off with pure electric cars. Wasting land to grow bio mass for fuel will not meet our energy needs and will only drive up the cost for food.”
That’s not true. There’s lots of land in the US unsuitable for food crops where unassuming prarie grasses will grow in abundance.
November 24th, 2007 - 12:14
“I think what’s imporant is being able to get off the grid entirely.”
Why? The most likely form of energy crisis is a liquid energy crisis, not an electricity crisis.
November 26th, 2007 - 17:50
It will create more green house gasses from the fertalizer. It will drive up food prices. CO2 Lifecycle of creating bio fuels exceeds that of fossil fuels. It is true.
March 27th, 2008 - 20:31
if only the video was a lil’ but more sharp so i could read whats in it
March 28th, 2008 - 17:26
add &fmt=18 to the end of the url, it increades the quality
March 28th, 2008 - 17:57
nice, how do you know….i mean…how come u know …probably an IT prof
April 21st, 2008 - 15:11
the truth is the price of gas is only following the rest of the encomny as the things we buy get more expensive so does gas the cruel joke is e85 has been driving up the price of gas in the biggest way
May 6th, 2008 - 04:41
Why not subvert the control these energy cartels have over your life!?! This is not spam, merely someone spreading the word. You can install a very low budget hydrogen fuel cell on your petrol engine and acheive between 40 and 60 percent improvement in MPG! This from a cheap home made system. There are many videos on youtube, and many people selling their kits. Check it out!
watch?v=YFGhZNxdyDY&feature=related
watch?v=C4mz7MPSquU&feature=related
June 5th, 2008 - 04:38
I’m buying the Apter Hybrid and it gets 125 miles per gallon even if I never plug it in. now why can’t toyota do that. why can’t gm do that. why can’t any of the other dozens of automakers do that? stupid situation and I’m buying the Aptera Hybrid, Period.
July 2nd, 2008 - 00:27
Sugar cane ethanol is cheaper ( cost about US$1 in brazil with a lot of taxes) , can increase the power comparated with same gasoline engine(increase the life of engine too), and overall system is lighter and cheaper than any other system (pure electric, diesel, hybrid…).
But i believe in electric car for future
August 5th, 2008 - 05:55
Torque doesn’t increase the 0-60 its horse power
September 17th, 2008 - 23:22
your wrong. Torque increases 0-60…. Horsepower is just measures you carrying weight one foot every second. Torque is the actual rotating force.
September 26th, 2008 - 16:18
Obviously this is out of date. Cellulosic Ethanol using “trash” has proven to have a higher return of energy over diesel and gasoline along with producing lower emissions for the cars that use it.
October 24th, 2008 - 20:30
Exactly, garbage is 40 percent paper (cellulose). Obviously, it is widely available. It also costs a huge amount to landfill. Further, no one wants a garbage dump next to them. It also creates huge numbers of jobs. Many of the jobs are joe-jobs that take a low skill and training level (picking up cellulose garbage e.g. wheat straw, shredded tree branches, ditch weed, old construction waste) that replace blue collar jobs. Also, if the plants are relatively small, they can be decentralized.
November 13th, 2008 - 15:18
Duurtlang
October 12th, 2009 - 01:09
Biofuels have had, and will continue to have, an awful effect on the world’s poorest people and their ability to feed themselves. This should be taken into account. There are many types of renewable energy, biofuels is NOT the way to go…
May 15th, 2010 - 12:18
BTL Hybrids is the ultimate green solution …